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Identified Certainteed coils

A quick learner from Brooklyn, NY says:
We were able to remove the window and the balance shoes, supports and coils.
The numbers on the shoes are AF87598;
The numbers on the supports are H65 34/5M.
The coil has a 10 on it, with a J underneath.
Both coils have snapped in half (half is on the shoes and the other half is on the supports. We
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Paul from SWISCO responded:
Thank you for posting. Can you confirm the stamp on your coil springs? I don't know of any that have a 10 pound rating. Also, how many springs do you have on each side of the window?

Can you also show me a clear picture of the pivot shoe? With your sash installed, I can't make it out. It would probably be best to remove it from the window entirely so that we can get a good look. Thanks!
A quick learner from Brooklyn, NY says:
The spring does have the number 10 stamped on it and below that stamp is the letter "J". I've taken a picture (att'd). There is 1 spring on each side of the window (these have apparently snapped in half, so it is visible on the pivot shoe & the support on each side). I've also taken pictures of the pivot shoe. Thanks very much for your help.
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Paul from SWISCO responded:
That is weird! Can you tell me how heavy your sash is? I wonder if it is 20 pounds. In the meantime, I will look into this stamp and see what I can find.
A quick learner from Brooklyn, New York says:
Now that you mention it, the sash could weigh 15 + pounds. Hard to tell, but it is pretty heavy. Thanks again.
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Paul from SWISCO responded:
I would like to know the exact weight, if possible. You can determine this by removing the sash from the window and placing it on a scale.
A quick learner from Brooklyn, NY says:
Sorry I couldn't get back to you yesterday. I was able to weigh the sash - it's just a bit under 17 pounds. I hope that helps.
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Paul from SWISCO responded:
Great, thank you. In that case, I recommend our S170-409. Each spring can carry 9 pounds, so using one on each side should be strong enough for your sash weight.
A quick learner from Brooklyn, NY says:
Thank you. In addition to ordering two of the S170-409 springs, which pivot shoes and supports should I order to replace the ones on this window. The pivot shoe number is AF87598 and the support number is H65 34/5M.

Thanks once again for all your help.
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Paul from SWISCO responded:
Sure! See our 15-192 pivot shoe, 15-156 or 15-185 supports, 15-157 drum and 33-072 screw. Keep in mind you only need to replace the parts that are damaged. If some parts are fine, you can reuse them.
A quick learner from Brooklyn, NY says:
Paul: thank you very much for all of your help with this. Everyone we've dealt with at SWISCO has been extremely helpful. Thanks again.
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