Screen door closer that's slow steady

A quick learner from Florida says:
I've seen most screen door closers (10" pistons) that just pull on the door and let it slam into you if you let go. Can't be used if you're carrying something. Most of these seem to stop about 6" away from closing and, only then, slowly close the door. I seek one that has a constant rate of gradual closing, like most only do in the last 6". Any suggestions?
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Dave Sr. from SWISCO responded:
Hey, thanks for posting. Unfortunately, I don't think you're going to find a door closer like what you want. You see, what you have on a door closer is two stages of closing speeds. You have the slower or gradual closing speed when the door is opened (approx. 90 degrees), and as the door gets closer to the jamb you have what is called the "latch speed," which closes faster to make sure the door handle latch onto the striker/keeper. You can play with the adjustment, but you will always have the "thump" at the end of the closing cycle.

You could look into a hold-open closer like our 40-163 or 40-178 as an alternative, but these too will have the "thump".
A quick learner from Florida says:
No, you misunderstood. I want it to do what you say it will do but I don't have that. When I open the door it won't stay open even for a few seconds! I don't mind if it closes fast at the end making a noise. I currently have Wright brand 9" pistons (11" to the connection points). I'm looking for a replacement because mine won't let me out the door without hitting me... they go slowly only at the very end when the door is almost closed. I want it the opposite way around... closing very slowly until it is near the end. What is best for slow steady closing that would fit? Thanks.
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Tom from SWISCO responded:
In that case, really any replacement door closer should accomplish what you need, though none of the ones we carry are particularly slower than the others.
A home owner from Pasadena CA says:
I just installed a complete screen door kit, and don't like the closer at all. When you let go of the door, it swings violently back and forth, hitting you a few times, and then crawls to a close, letting the bugs in. (I can adjust the speed, but then it slams.)

In a previous home I had a hydraulic closer that I really liked, and I want another one like it. When you opened it more than about 45 degrees, it stayed in place until you gave it a little push, then it closed fairly fast until it was about 6 inches away from the jamb. Then it would gently close and latch.

It wasn't a cylinder; it had a rectangular box mounted horizontally on bottom of the door jamb.

Do you know of a closer like that?
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Dave Sr. from SWISCO responded:
Well, the only hold open type we have are our 40-163 or 40-178. I've never heard of anything like the one you described. You must have an older door closer we are not familiar with. I also recommend that you pay careful mind to the installation directions. How your closer was installed could be the problem, not the closer itself.
A handy person from Pittsburgh PA says:
Dear Swisco experts,

I installed a brand new Pella storm door in 2012 and the door close action is exactly the same as described by the Florida and California home owners. When you let go of the open door, it closes immediately, without even a slight hesitation, whacking you pretty good because your not even through the door yet. And then as it approaches 2/3rd closed, it slows down to a crawl, practically ushering in insects for 12 seconds. It works completely opposite from any door closer I've ever seen. The speed adjustment only affects the last 1/3 of the travel speed, near the point of closure, the latch speed as you called it. I've triple checked the installation instructions, experimented with the only adjustment available - the speed screw - and still no improvement.

If this is an installation mistake, it must be a common one. Can you please share some wisdom on how to correct it?

All I want is a two stage door close that operates normally --- initial gradual speed followed by faster latch speed at the end - just like Dave described!

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Dave Sr. from SWISCO responded:
I've seen this happen before. It very well may be an installation mistake, yes. Each door closer is different, though, and I'm not entirely familiar with what Pella has. I'm not sure what you can do to fix it, but I would just review the installation instructions that came with it and see if there's anything you missed.

It's also possible you just need to adjust it. There should be a screw on there for that. See if that fixes it.

If none of that works, then the closer may be shot and you would need a new one.
A home owner from Upstate NY says:
I have the same problem as the above.
I can adjust the screw so it "closes slowly" but as soon as someone open the door wide to carry in a bag and lets go of the door, it whacks them in the back of the leg/foot. Then it will take 20+seconds to gradually close and latch. Any more adjustment to make it even slower, just causes the door to stay open. Adjusting the other way makes the door close faster, but really does not seem to change or prevent the back of leg whack!
It would be GREAT if the STARTING closing speed and ENDING closing speed were there same.
I went to top and bottom door closers, and it is the same effect/impact!
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Dave Sr. from SWISCO responded:

Personally, I always found that storm door closers seem to have a problem with closing. Regardless of what type you use, they all seem to be very problematic if not installed at the proper location on the door and if they aren't adjusted properly. It's definitely a hassle.

What you have with any door closer is the "speed" and "latch" when closing. What I suggest is for you to first try and adjust the speed of the closer using the adjustment screw at the end of the piston. Turning it a 1/4 turn at a time to see if it will give you the speed and latch you're looking for. Also use a spray lubricant on the piston rod. It's always a good idea to keep it lubricated. Also make sure the closer has been installed properly. Sometimes that just takes trial and error to get it in the right spot.

What I do at home to prevent the closer from hitting me in the butt is to use the hold open bracket to keep the door open while bringing in packages off the porch from Amazon.

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