25-4 DX CMC 11

Quick Learner from CALIFORNIA
My window will no longer stay up and the balancer appears to be broken with the string hanging and one of the spring completely fell out. The only identifying mark on the part is 25-4 DX CMC 11. Can you please advise which model I need to purchase to replace this?

Thank you
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Lauren
Lauren from SWISCO
SWISCO
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Hello, thank you for posting,

To further review, we will need to see the balance removed from the window with clear images of the top and bottom nylon attachments. From there we can narrow down our selection to determine the correct replacement option. Thank you! 

Quick Learner from CALIFORNIA
Hello Lauren,

Thank you very much for your reply!
Please see attached for the requested photos and let me know if there is anything else you need

Thank you,

Aaron
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Lauren
Lauren from SWISCO
SWISCO
Expert

Hi Aaron, thank you for the additional pictures,

With this combination of attachments, you could have either an S380 or S385 channel balance. You’ll need to measure as shown below. The Series 380 has a 1" bottom attachment, and the Series 385 has a 1-3/32" attachment.

The length of the metal channel excluding the nylon attachments should measure 26" long and you will need a 2540 stamp option.

Please review and let me know if you have any additional questions. 

Comparison of the S378, S380 and S385 balance shoes.
Comparison of the S378, S380 and S385 balance shoes.

Quick Learner from CALIFORNIA
I checked the nylon attachement and it is measuring ~1.05in.
How much of a difference does the 3/32" make for the nylon attachement?
Can i just order the 1inch model?

Thank you,

Aaron
Tom
Tom from SWISCO
SWISCO
Expert

That 3/32" is very important in my experience. If the shoe is too small, then your window will shift from side to side during operation, since there's not enough padding for it to brace the sash properly. If it's too deep, it will literally dig into the vinyl track during operation and could even permanently damage the vinyl.

If your balances are particularly old then you have to keep in mind that there will be a certain amount of wear. In other words, the shoe's depth will be less than it once was just from the constant friction of day to day usage. You need to account for that when you measure.

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