Do I have the Series 850?

Quick Learner from Manassas Park

From what I see, the Series 850 is the right replacement for my balances. I cannot find any Info besides Code:PAT Spec:NFRC Series: 1100/1200SH MST:4060. From internet search this seems appropriate replacement. Can you verify? Too, are these easy to install? Looks like you just put pin on window into bottom and screw top piece to jam? Your help appreciated

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Paul
Paul from SWISCO
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This resembles the Series 850 crossbow balance. May we have the length, diameter of the spring, and width of the "T" shape shoe? From there we can determine which one you exactly will need.

Quick Learner from Manassas Park, VA
Paul,
The "shoe" is 7/8" wide. The spring is 12 1/2" in its relaxed state, but before it broke, the assembly when tensioned was 30 1/2".
Does this help?
Paul
Paul from SWISCO
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Thanks for your patience. Unfortunately, we no longer have the S850-30 (30-1/2") with the 1" black shoe. We now suggest going with our S795-30 with a 1" T-lock shoe. You will need to weigh your sash for the spring weight. Refer to the sash weight chart on the product page for more information. In addition, you will also need to change your pivot bar. We usually recommend the 26-021, but our 26-366 may be another option. If you aren't sure what to go with, send us a photo of the pivot bar you're using now.

Quick Learner
What is a pivot bar?
I have no way to weigh my sash. If I give dimensions can you estimate?
Quick Learner from Manassas Park, VA
If this is what you mean by pivot bar, I cannot change these. They are inside the sash I don't know how this one came out. I would have to use existing.
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Tom
Tom from SWISCO
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I'm afraid there's no reliable way to determine the weight of your sash aside from weighing it on a scale. Any common bathroom scale should do.

As for the pivot bar, it should come out. All pivot bars are designed to be removed. It should just be held in with a screw.

If you're having trouble uploading your picture, try reducing its size. Sometimes extra large pictures have trouble getting through.

Quick Learner from Manassas Park, VA
This is the pin on the bottom of my window. Is it compatible or should it have to be changed? It seems I would have to clear soe of the vinyl around it to remove it.
The window weighs 18.7 pounds.

Appreciate your help
Tom
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Tom from SWISCO
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So it looks like you will need to switch both pivot bars for our 26-021 bars. You should be able to remove your old pivot bar by removing the screw and spraying some WD-40 if it seems like it's still a little stuck.

For your balance option, you will need to choose 30B to support your windows sash weight. 

Thank you! 

Tom
Tom from SWISCO
SWISCO
Expert

Yes, if your old balances installed at the top with a hook then our 26-200 will allow you to install the new balance type that uses a screw tab instead.

Quick Learner from Manassas Park, VA

This is an ongoing learning experience. I have replace several balances with great success. Today I had my first experience with the anchor for the cord screw pop out. I need help finding a replacement. The screw I use is part #33-072. The opening in the sash where the anchor was is about 1/4" square. from searching your website it looks like part #26-200 would be my replacement. Is this right?

Appreciate your help. BTW the balances I did replace were easy and work great.

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