Spiral Balance Inquiry

Quick Learner
Apr 18, 2023 10:01 am
Good Morning,
Recently purchased S900-28, yellow tip balances and they failed during installation. The spring popped out upon closing the window. Have been speaking with Customer Service, and we are now thinking the correct replacement will be custom spiral balances.
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Tom
Tom from SWISCO
Apr 19, 2023 8:26 am
SWISCO
EXPERT

Thanks for reaching out to us. Your balance is definitely a little different than our Series 900. The main factor here is the extension of the spiral rod coming out of the bottom of the tube. Yours is longer than average, so I need to check to see if this is something we can supply.

Before I can do that, though, I will need to know how much weight the spring is calibrated to support. Our phone operators have told me that your original balance's color tip was Yellow, but reviewing your photos that does not appear to be the case. The balances in these pictures all have a white tip that's just been faded with age; yellow tips are very bright, almost lemon colored.

The bad news is that white tips are a little outdated and they don't really correspond to any modern weight option. That means that we will need you to weigh the sash on the scale and give us the precise weight, down to the ounce. Due to the special design of this balance we should probably do this anyway, just to make sure we have all our bases covered. It's always a good idea to be thorough for this kind of project, especially when you've already bought one part that doesn't work.

Quick Learner
Apr 19, 2023 9:50 am
You may be right about the tip color but I double checked again they clearly are yellow I'm going to attach couple more pictures and later on today I will weight the sash and send you the weight of the sash thank you.
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Tom
Tom from SWISCO
Apr 19, 2023 1:55 pm
SWISCO
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Thank you. Knowing the sash weight will be a huge help. I can promise you that those color tips are formerly white, not yellow, regardless of how they may look now. I am very familiar with this hardware and the color of this tip has just faded with age. 

That's not to say that our yellow tip option isn't the right option for the job, but given the circumstances it's best that we verify. The sash weight will allow us to do that beyond any shadow of a doubt.

Quick Learner
Apr 19, 2023 10:57 pm

Sash Weight 18.5 Lbs

Attaching pictures showing dimensions of the sash.

One picture showing balance mounting spot.

I don't know if you can see clearly the dimensions of the sash 33.25x30 in

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Quick Learner
Apr 20, 2023 12:22 pm
Is there any up date?
Tom
Tom from SWISCO
Apr 21, 2023 9:15 am
SWISCO
EXPERT

Thanks for your patience while we looked into this. We can supply this balance, but it will have to be a custom order due to that spiral length. This is a particularly special part, too, but thankfully we have all the data we need to move forward.

Based no your sash weight, we're also going with the Red Tip color option. Two Red Tip balances in this size can carry sashes weighing 10 through 22 pounds, so it should be perfect.

I'll email you a purchase link and price quote right now for 2. Please let me know if you wanted to make any changes or if you had any questions and I'd be happy to assist you.

Quick Learner
May 9, 2023 8:08 am
I have another window with smaller balances, but look similar to the other custom balances purchased. Attached are the pictures. 16 inch and 3/8 is the size . Please let me know what is the best option for me. Thank you.

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Tom
Tom from SWISCO
May 9, 2023 8:53 am
SWISCO
EXPERT

Hello again! So, I'm not sure that these need to be custom made. Looking at the design is appears to be a pretty standard tilt window spiral balance. This is especially the case if the tube diameter is just 3/8", since they don't make hybrid balances this small. I would wager this is an old version of our Series 900. They used to make these with plastic tubes back in the day, but now they only do it in metal. 

Quick Learner
May 9, 2023 11:39 am
Thank you for your reply. So I should order regular 16 in ? Which color tip ? It's 18lbs Thank you .
Tom
Tom from SWISCO
May 9, 2023 12:18 pm
SWISCO
EXPERT

If the tube is 16" then that is the length you want. The Blue Tip color option carries sashes weighing between 9 through 21 pounds.

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