Surface Mounted Handle Set for Sliding Glass Doors

Home Owner from Venice, FL

Got two 3 segment 12' PGT sliding glass patio doors that needs new handles - so my wife tells me. Your 82-036 would seem to be right except there is not enough data to let me know if it will fit without major modifications or problems. 

The current handle is using 6 9/16" holes in the door frame but uses a single latch acting thru a 7/8 by 5/8" opening in the door frame centered 5" down from the upper bolt. I assume that this hole can be enlarged relatively easily - so probably no real issue if the latches in the new handle overlap it - do they? 

The existing keeper is designed for a single latch is only 2 5/8" long and is anchored in the 1" wide 1/2" deep channel with two screws 1 5/8" apart. Obviously, it wouold have to be replaced, however, there is not enough data on the holes for the new keeper. 

A question is thus how the new screws would be anchored in the cement blocks framing the doors? Can the anchors be placed with the frame installed? If you have any alternate door handles that might fit better, please advise. Thanks!

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Tom from SWISCO
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The 82-036 will not fit on your door, unfortunately. Once you remove the lock set you have now, you will expose a huge rectangular hole that basically precludes any other style handle from working. The only way you could get the 82-036 to work is if you cover that hole with some kind of plate, but that's obviously not ideal. I've never known anyone who has bothered with that advice, either, so I can't tell you how well it would work, if at all.

Unless you get a new door, you're pretty much stuck using the same type of hardware you have now. There aren't really many ways around that. It's just how this door is designed. I hate dealing with these for that reason.

Home Owner from Venice, FL
Thanks for your reply. However, I am confused. The opening for the current lock is 7 1/8" by 3/4", the lock itself covers 7 1/4" by 15/16". The existing screw holes are 6 9/16" center to center. The 82-036 has the same distance between the holes, would the handle not cover the existing opening? It certainly should fit lengthwise and, though the width of the 82-036 is not given, from the picture provided, it certainly looks like it could be wide enough. What am I missing? Thanks for clarifying this for me.
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Tom from SWISCO
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It's not just about covering the hole, it's the fact that the screws of the new handle have nothing to secure to. It would just be loose in that opening, flopping around every time you grabbed it. 

It's ultimately up to you. You're more than welcome to give it a try, but I do not recommend it. Our official suggestion is to stick with what you have. 

Home Owner from Venice, FL
My confusion is bigger now than before. Is the 82-036 not a set of two handles? Would the main handle with the latch not be secured via the screws to the other handle and trap the door frame in between, thus giving it stability?
Tom
Tom from SWISCO
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The problem is that the screws aren't screwing into anything other than the other handle. They're not going into the door itself, which is necessary if you don't want the handle to come loose practically every time you touch it. It would just be two handles sandwiched over a huge gap with nothing to hold them in place, which is not only insecure, it's not even really functional. 

The only reason the handle you have now works is because it's recessed into the frame and precisely shaped to fit the hole. The 82-036 isn't even close to the same shape or size of your hole. 

But like I said, if you don't believe me, you're more than welcome to try it. The choice is ultimately yours.

Home Owner from Venice, FL
Tom, It wasn't so much that I didn't believe you as I didn't understand what the issue was. Your last comments made if finally clear to me why it wouldn't work. Thanks for your patience in explaining this - it saved me trouble, time and money. Rick
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