US PAT 2203427
https://www.google.com/patents/US2203427?dq=patent:2203427
This is the system I have... c.a. 1940 Detroit
My question is this: any parts around? also, could the wood sashes be saved and used in a modern balance/track system?
aluminum side rails wood sash double hung no tilt

Quick Learner from Toledo
Sep 15, 2016 4:50 pm
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Paul from SWISCO
Sep 16, 2016 12:50 pm


I'm afraid the information provided doesn't tell us what you need. What hardware are you looking to replace, exactly? Can you show me pictures of the individual parts you need to replace from your window? That would be a huge help.

Quick Learner from Toledo
Sep 16, 2016 8:28 pm
yes, sorry... I had not taken the window track out of the casement last post... If these are salvageable, I need to find a way to better fasten the spring loaded side to the wall. There are recessed screw guides/eyelets; but several have popped through the track, others have widened the recessed screw nubopenings and the fastening screw simply pulls through.


Dave Sr. from SWISCO
Sep 20, 2016 10:27 am


I'm certain your window tracks are no longer available. I have seen this type once or twice before when I was removing them to install new vinyl replacement windows. The way your sashes are shaped on the sides prevent you from using another type of track or balance system. However, if you do want to try and repair your window, I would suggest purchasing some type of screw and washers at a local hardware store. Take the track with you to show them and maybe they have a type of washer and screw that could help secure the tracks in the window.

Quick Learner from Toledo OH
Sep 20, 2016 10:56 am
Sorry to annoy you... One more question.. (carrying un-lit cigar and wearing an old trench coat like Columbo)...
If I can keep them.. What type of lubricant, or none, should be used on the tracks/sashes?
If I can keep them.. What type of lubricant, or none, should be used on the tracks/sashes?

Dave Sr. from SWISCO
Sep 22, 2016 11:49 am


Alright, Columbo, I'll see what I can do. To lubricate the tracks, I would suggest the 75-077 slider track lubricant, or an equivalent furniture wax polish (I've known people to use old candles in a pinch!) You can also use a type of silicone spray or even a type of furniture wax polish. We advise against oils like WD-40, which can collect dirt and debris and clog up the wheels. You want a lubricant that is dry.

Quick Learner from Toledo OH
Sep 22, 2016 5:26 pm
This post is for upper corporate management...
These guys deserve all the "corporate love" you can give them.. Cut upper-management bonuses, salary and squeeze out a big pile of corporate cash and share it with your peeps.
At least match 401Ks to the max allowable by law and make sure there is pension and disaster money.. Be good corporate citizens and find a way to more than take care of your "Human Resources".
Thank You in advance in your attention to this matter; Jack
These guys deserve all the "corporate love" you can give them.. Cut upper-management bonuses, salary and squeeze out a big pile of corporate cash and share it with your peeps.
At least match 401Ks to the max allowable by law and make sure there is pension and disaster money.. Be good corporate citizens and find a way to more than take care of your "Human Resources".
Thank You in advance in your attention to this matter; Jack

Quick Learner from Buffalo NY
Oct 17, 2020 3:45 pm
We have these windows in our home built in 1948. Same problem with the screws and metal cups pulling through. Small washers do the trick for the screws, and the cups are malleable enough that squeezing them gently in a vice can restore the little lip on the track. A couple of them just don't quite fit anymore but I moved those to the top of the outer track where I rarely move the sash. I have learned just to live with it.
The windows are made of hardwood and with proper maintenance will last another 80 years. The best part is they remove so easily for cleaning.
The windows are made of hardwood and with proper maintenance will last another 80 years. The best part is they remove so easily for cleaning.

Quick Learner from Northern California
Feb 13, 2021 11:40 am
We also have these windows and I am glad I came across this post, because I haven't seen any other information on the Internet. We bought our house three years ago, and about half of the windows are these originals. Some of the cups were completely missing, so I used large washers and screws to keep the track in place. It takes a bit of time to adjust the screws so that the window will open like you want it to. The windows are double hung and the top windows don't really come down very easily (or at all because they have been painted shut), but it doesn't really bother us. I really like these windows and think they have a nice vintage charm to them. However, they are VERY drafty, so I am going to put in some interior "storm windows" (acrylic panels) to help with weatherization.

Contractor from South Carolina
May 7, 2024 9:52 am
I've been restoring these windows for several years. I use a locking type nut. Just grind the ridges off the back side and insert wood screw. For the existing cups I use a 1/4" x 1 1/2" stainless steel screw. Then wax away.
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