Atria windows, balance shoes broken, obsolete

Handy Person from Columbus Ohio
I have some ten year old atria Windows with broken balance shoes. 32", 34", and two 26" windows. Atria went out of business, and I understand that the balance shoes are obsolete. So how do I go about fixing these? I assume I need to get all new balances and shoes, but what kind? Could you suggest what I need and give me an itemized list of what I need to buy from Swisco.

I'm a fairly handy guy. Is this something I can fix myself?

Thanks,

Tom
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Bob
Bob from SWISCO
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Thanks for posting. This looks like a Series 795 Channel Balance. You are correct; your old T-Lock shoe has a grooved stem that our shoes and balances lack; the only thing to do I'm afraid is to replace the balances entirely. To know what balance lengths to select, you're going to have to measure the metal channel from each set, not including the T-Lock Shoe. You'll then need to choose the correct stamp option. Look for stamped codes on the metal channel that conform to our stamp options. If you're uncertain what to choose, you'll need to the weigh the window sash. You can then match that precise weight with one of the weight ranges listed for each stamp option on the product page. See the video below for more details; it covers how to convert an older crossbow balance to the Series 795, which isn't what you're doing; but it also has a lot of detail about the Series 795 in general, so it's worth a look in my opinion.

Handy Person from Columbus Ohio
Thanks. So if I get the Series 795 balances to replace my current balances, is that all I need, or are there other parts I'm going to need for the install? I haven't done a ton of research yet about the install. I was going to do that after I figured out which balances to get.
Bob
Bob from SWISCO
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The Series 795 comes pre-installed with the 15-195 1-1/4" T-Lock Shoe. Just confirm that your old T-Lock Shoe matches the dimensions of the 15-195 (besides the groove in the stem, of course). Judging from your pictures I think it does, but double-check to be safe. If so, then the balance will come ready to install. 

You may also need our 26-200 Balance Screw plug; but to confirm, can you show me the hole in the jamb track where the clip at the end of the balance's nylon cord hooks to? Many thanks. 

Handy Person from Columbus Ohio
Thanks for the reply. I'll look tonight and post a pic of the current hole in the jamb track.

Bob
Bob from SWISCO
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Great, thank you! We'll be here.

Handy Person from Columbus Ohio
Hi, Bob. So here is the screw in the jamb for my current channel balance. Also, I have attached a pic of the width measurement for my current balance shoe. So will the standard lock shoe for the series 795 work? Thanks.
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Bob from SWISCO
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Perfect, thanks! Yes, I think our Series 795 will work just fine as-is. All you have to do now is match up metal channel length and stamps between your windows. The stamps should be printed right on the old balances so that'll be easy.

Let us know if you have any questions, we're always here to help!

Handy Person from Columbus Ohio
Great. Thank you very much. Hopefully, I'll be able to handle this myself now and on future window breakdowns and save hundreds and hundreds of dollars!
Bob
Bob from SWISCO
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I hope so too! I'm confident our balance will work perfectly as a replacement, but if you run into any issues please let us know. We're happy to help as best as we can.

Handy Person from Columbus Ohio
One more question: For my two 26" windows that have the same dimensions and look to be the same window, one window has a 26B channel and one has a 26C channel. Is there a reason they would be different when they appear to be the same window?

Thanks,

Tom
Bob
Bob from SWISCO
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Off the top of my head, I'd say it's possible that they have different kinds of glass installed. That could increase the weight of the sash enough to tip it into another strength range.

Another possibility is that whoever installed these balances just put in whatever they had laying around, which happens a lot. You may want to weigh your sash just to be 100% sure. Two 26B balances can carry a sash weighing 11 through 17 pounds, while a 26C carries 17 through 22.

Handy Person from Columbus Ohio
Ok. Thanks!
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