Awning windows

Quick Learner from PA
I have crank out awning windows, all mechanisms work, but the arms no longer connect to the window by way of a bar that's attached to the window. I think from looking at your site I need something called a shoe to attach the arms to the actual window. I showed you two different windows one just has pegs that are ribbed sticking out from the arms but no shoe. The other has two different shoes. One is like a rubber black one with two holes and the other one is just like a metal hook. but I can't figure out what to buy to attach the arms to that bar if you can help me?
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Tom from SWISCO
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I'm afraid that your photos are a little too unclear. Can I see a better picture of the guides at the end of that operator? The hook and the rubber piece? I have a suspicion that they're both part of the same configuration.

Would you also happen to know who made your window?

Lastly, you mentioned a bar that the shoe attaches to. May I see that?

Quick Learner from PA
Sorry for the delay, but I've been caring for a sick loved one. I will download more. It would only let me do five thank you for your help with this
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Quick Learner from PA
Additional pictures. The window doesn't have any markings, but the arm does say Anderson. So I believe they are Anderson windows. The bar is difficult to photograph, but it appears to be two metal pieces with a jointure in the middle.
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Tom
Tom from SWISCO
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Thanks! Knowing that this is Andersen is a huge help. I suspected as much but a few details were uncertain, so that confirms it.

What you have here is an old and obsolete Andersen brand operator. they haven't made this in a long time. There are two modern versions that may replace it, however, as long as you don't mind doing a bit of handiwork. See our 39-389 and 39-390 for the two sizes available.

These are modern versions of your original operator, but the problem is they were designed for a modern window. As such, using them on an old window like yours won't be so simple. At minimum you're doing to need to remount the bar, redrill holes for the base, and very likely cut the wood sill trim to accommodate the new style base. Worst case scenario, you need a new sill trim entirely.

If you aren't familiar with this kind of project, I strongly recommend that you contact a local professional to do it for you. It's not easy, but we have had customers tell us that it worked after all that. It's going to be your best bet.

Quick Learner from PA
The whole operation works, though. I just need the clips to attach to the bar. Is that possible?
Tom
Tom from SWISCO
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It's hard to say since the clips are damaged, but the 36-030 come to mind. We recommend comparing the specifications with an undamaged version to confirm. 

Dimensions for 36-030
Dimensions for 36-030

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