Broken Coil Spring

Home Owner from Kutztown, Pa
Hello. I had another coil spring break. One of the springs says 3 and the other 4. Is this the weight for each spring. Nothing else is stamped. If it is the weight it is a double system holder as can be seen in the pictures. Does it matter which number goes on top. Also when I took the springs apart they were not one into another then into the pivot point. Both springs were attached to the pivot point. Is this a screw up when first installed or the correct way. Thank you m
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Jasmine
Jasmine from SWISCO
SWISCO
Expert

Thanks for writing in! To be able to determine how exactly your balances should be assembled and installed in the window, I'll need  a bit more information.

May I please see a photo of the compatible shoe?

In regard to which coil should be installed on the top or bottom, it shouldn't matter much. As long as they are installed in the same fashion on both sides of the window. For example, if you stack the 4lb coil on top of the 3lb coil for one side of the window, you need to do the same for opposite side.

The coil springs could be breaking for any number of reasons. We'll need to first determine if you have the correct spring strength for the weight of you sash. With that said, I'll need to know exactly how much your sash (window) weighs; down to the ounce.

Please let me know if you have any questions in the meantime.

Home Owner from Kutztown, Pa
Thank you for getting back to me so quickly. The sash weight 14.0 pounds. Please see below the picture of the show which I think is compatible to the 15-111 shoe (your product). Also do the coil spring goes into the other coil spring and then that spring goes into the pivot shoe. When I took it apart both coil springs were into the pivot shoe. Which one is correct? Thank you.
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Jasmine
Jasmine from SWISCO
SWISCO
Expert

Thanks for the confirming. I just needed to be sure of the type of shoe and coil before giving a recommendation. There should only be one coils spring attached to the shoe and the other should be connected to the springs. It seems that whoever installed the coil assembly previously, did so incorrectly.

Take a look at the videos below for reference.


Home Owner from Kutztown, Pa
Thank you again for the quick response and clarifying the correct way to assemble the coil springs to the pivot shoe. What weight do I need for the coil springs and is the pivot shoe 15-111 the correct shoe. Do I go with the 4 pound and 3 pound coil spring weight for each side or do you recommend something else. Thank you.
Jasmine
Jasmine from SWISCO
SWISCO
Expert

Yes, the shoe is correct. Since the window weighs 14lbs, you could stick with the 3lb and 4lb coils or you could use one 7lb coil. That would be up to your discretion. The two sides would just need to be identical when installed.

To determine the exact coil springs you need, I would just need to know the width of your coil spring.

Home Owner from Kutztown, Pa
The coil spring is one half inch. The picture I submitted previously with the measuring tape indicates the size. Thank you.
Jasmine
Jasmine from SWISCO
SWISCO
Expert

My apologies, the photo you submitted of the coil with the measuring tape isn't clear, unfortunately. Thanks for confirming the measurement. 

I would suggest using two of the S160-3 Coil Balances. They can hold 3.5lbs. Therefore, (2) of them should provide you with 7lbs on both sides of the window to support a total weight of 14lbs.

You may also need the 15-150D Coil Double Support.

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