Casement operator and frame

Handy Person from Wantagh, NY
Hi. Hopefully the photos are clear but in summary: casement window as part of a bay unit with casements flanking a picture window. The operator on one window came loose a few months ago. What I would describe as a metal bushing or housing presumably originally attached to the vinyl frame broke loose from the frame. I was able to rig that with screw nuts and washers. Then the 2nd set of mounting screws broke loose and the housing is nowhere to be found.

At this point I think my only solution is to use a 2 part epoxy to infill the vinyl frame and then drill it out to accept screws for a replacement operator, assuming one can be had. I'm hoping you can assist with confirming if an operator is available.

Thanks,

Pete Janiec
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Tom from SWISCO
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Hello, Pete. I see what you mean. That damage to the screw holes in the window frame is an annoying job, though not impossible. Hopefully you'll be able to patch it.

As for the operator, we actually carry a ton of different sizes that may replace this. I'm not sure how long the arm is but see our 39-139 (9-1/2") and 39-142 (11") to start. We have other styles, too, so if yours is different please don't hesitate to reach out. Also note that both have a thin metal disc at the end of the arm by way of track slider. You may want to double check to ensure that yours is the same.

Dimensions for 39-139
Dimensions for 39-139

Dimensions for 39-142
Dimensions for 39-142

Handy Person from Wantagh, NY
Awesome, thanks!

I measured this morning and think the 9 1/2 will fit.

The original is marked TRUTH 40065. Looks like 39-139 should do the trick. Question about the "handedness" before i order. If I'm standing inside looking out the bay unit, this casement is on my left. The operator is also on my left. The window locks on the right and opens to the left. I think 39-139 is correct but would like to double check before ordering.

Thanks again!
Tom
Tom from SWISCO
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Great! I'm glad that these parts look promising. Concerning the best way to determine handing, in this case you want to go by the position of the handle relative to the base. So in the case of your photos, the handle is on the left side of the base, which would make it our 39-139. If the handle is on the right side, you want our 39-138.

Every company, contractor, and home owner you'll talk to has their own way of determining left from right. Some define it from the outside looking in, some define it from the inside looking out, others still define it from which side of the window the operator sits on, or even what direction the window opens. There is unfortunately no industry standard.

That's a huge headache, so over the years we've learned to just use the part itself as a reference. What side the handle is on, what direction the arm faces when it's "neutral," and so on. Terminology changes from region to region, but the hard facts never lie.

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