Help finding balance 22B BSI

Home Owner from Schenectady, NY

I am looking to replace (2) channel balances and (2) pivot locking shoes (?) for a tilt out window for which I cannot find the manufacturer. The dimensions of the old channel balance are: 22"L x 9/16"W x 1/2"deep. A replacement that fits would work, too. Attached are some images of the old pieces. I didn't measure the W x H of the pivot locking shoe as I didn't know how to get it out until I watched your video. Need help! My 87 year old mom is ready to replace 2 perfectly good windows if I can't replace the parts!

Can't get any help locally.

Rob

Channel balance 22B BSI
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Tom
Tom from SWISCO
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Hey, Rob. I think we can help, but we will need a bit more information. First, could you show us a clearer picture of the clip at the end of the cord? Yours is a little different from anything we carry and I want to see if it would be possible to substitute it.
Home Owner from Schenectady, NY
Please see attached. I assume the clip attaches to the shoe. Here is another angle on the clip.
Clip
Paul
Paul from SWISCO
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Aha, I recognize the bottom clip. They no longer make this balance anymore, but the manufacturer recommends our Series 795 channel balance. In your case, I'd recommend our S795-22 with a stamp of 22B. The balance and pivot shoe are all included with the system. I would just confirm the width of the pivot shoe. The shoe that comes with our balance is 1-1/4". Let me know what you think.
Home Owner from Schenectady, NY
Paul,
Thanks - I will measure the pivot shoe and get back to you.
Rob
Home Owner from Schenectady, NY
The pivot shoe width is 1"
Tom
Tom from SWISCO
SWISCO
Expert
Thanks! In that case, I would recommend that you also purchase our 15-194 in addition to the S795-22. You can pop the default 1-1/4" shoe off the Series 795 and pop the 1" wide 15-194 on in its place.
Home Owner from Schenectady, NY
Thanks, Tom, I will do it.
Rob
Home Owner from Schenectady
Paul,
I ordered the parts you recommended only to find out yesterday that the window channel doesn't have a "cut out" to remove and replace the Pivot Shoe. How do I replace this part now?
Rob
Tom
Tom from SWISCO
SWISCO
Expert

You actually don't need a cut out to install the S795-22. As for removing the old shoe, if there is no cut out there are a couple options. See the following two videos for what methods we recommend.

Home Owner from Schenectady, NY
Got it, thanks again!
Rob
Home Owner from Lewiston NY
Hello. Following this posting, I am in the same boat. I need to replace the balance and shoe in my window channel. The number is 22B BSI. Same as one on this message. My shoe is 1-1/4 " so that's no problem. the only question I have is that the current balance is not installed with a screw but is hung on a clip at the top with a "rivet" at the top of the balance. Can the new balance and shoe come with that rivet or should I remove the clip in the channel and screw the balance in with the supplied screw clip? Please see pics  
thanks. 
Shand
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Tom
Tom from SWISCO
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Looking at your photos, your balance is a very different design than the one shown above. More than installing using a hook, your cord extends from the top of the channel instead of the bottom. That means you have an entirely different pivot shoe. Aside from the stamp this is an entirely different configuration.

For now, I think it would be wise to forget about the balance shown in this thread and we just start from scratch. I'd like a clear picture of the pivot shoe that was at the bottom of your balance so that we can get a better idea of what Series you might be using.

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