Help replacing balance system

Home Owner from MD

Dear SWISCO,

The balance system of two of my windows had Brocken. I took them out. On the spring it says 406L and it is a double springs system. Will you please tell me what the coil balance assembly I should get and where to get them. Should I also the pivot bars.

Thanks very much. Your videos are very helpful!

Janet 

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Emily
Emily from SWISCO
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Thank you for reaching out to us, Janet! We can help with this but I'd like a little more information to ensure we recommend the proper hardware. Can you show us a photo of the pivot bar, preferably removed from the window sash? Let me know!

Home Owner from MD
Thanks!
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Emily
Emily from SWISCO
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Thank you kindly for the additional photos! This is a huge help. It looks like you have an old Simonton pivot bar which leads me to recommend the 15-259 pivot shoe. The Series 159 are the compatible springs and you will need the 26-083 pivot bar as well since your old one won't be compatible with the new shoe. Have a look at the video below and let me know if you have any questions. 

Home Owner from MD
Thanks very much for your help, Emily
Emily
Emily from SWISCO
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I'm happy to help! Please don't hesitate to reach out with any other hardware repair questions you might have.

Have a great day!

Home Owner from MD
Hi Emily,

I receive the parts. But my window is double coil and the pivot shoe is for single coil. It does not fix into the shoe. Should I order a different shoe?

Thanks for your help,

Janet
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Emily
Emily from SWISCO
SWISCO
Expert

No, you ordered the right 15-259 shoe but your old springs won't work with this. The 15-259 is only designed to work with the Series 159 springs. 

I can help determine the proper spring weights but I will need to know the precise weight of the sash. 

Home Owner from MD
But it is a double coil system. How to fit the second coil into the shoe? Will 15-192 CertainTeed Pivot Shoe work with my current coils? I have enough of them?
Home Owner from MD
From a you tube video from SWISCO, It looks like 15-192 - CertainTeed Pivot Shoe will work with my existing coils?

Thanks for your help,

Janet
Emily
Emily from SWISCO
SWISCO
Expert

Your old springs won't work with the 15-259 shoe but they should work with the 15-192. However, you will need to file down the aligners on the front of the face so that it can fit into the window track. Please note that altered items like this cannot be returned for a refund. Additionally, you will have to reuse your old pivot shoe's cam with the 15-259 for it to be compatible with your old pivot bar. 

Home Owner from MD
Ok, Thanks very much for your help!

Janet
Emily
Emily from SWISCO
SWISCO
Expert

No problem, Janet! I'll be here if you need anything else. 

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