Massena Housing Authority-Trocal Series 750

Landlord from Massena, NY
I am looking for replacement parts for these three items. The "tilt knob" operates the tilt latch. The tilt bar allows the window to come down and the cam is what the tilt bar slides into. I have only old part #tilt knob/Actuator Knob L/S-816001 and tilt bar is called pivot bar on old plans. Also have more pictures if needed.
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Tom from SWISCO
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Thanks for reaching out to us. We should definitely be able to help with the pivot shoe, but I'm less certain about the pivot bar and tilt latch. These are fairly old designs so we might need to get a little creative.

Before I recommend anything, though, I just need a bit more information. To start with please tell me the width and thickness of the pivot shoe. Height doesn't really matter, but width and thickness are essential.

Please also show me a picture of the pivot bar without the tape measure, if possible. I just want to be sure I'm seeing the whole thing. I'd also like you to verify the distance between the center of the screw hole and the front tip that goes into the shoe. 

Lastly, for the tilt latch actuator, please tell me the distance between the two installation prongs and their height.

If possible, please write your measurements down for me to review. It's difficult to determine precise sizing from just a photo of the tape measure.

Landlord from Massena, NY

Pivot shoe is 1-1/8" wide. Between 11/16" & 3/4" thick.

Tilt Latch-distance between two installation prongs is 1/16". Height is 1/2" the prongs are also offset about 1/2".

Pivot Bar- I have attached two more photos of pivot bar and from the end to center of the screw hole is 1-5/16".

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Tom from SWISCO
SWISCO
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Thank you. Unfortunately, we don't sell any hardware in the dimensions given. I was optimistic about the pivot shoe before, but not so much now. The only part we have that's close to that thickness is our 15-120, but it's 1-1/4" wide, not 1-1/8", and has a huge cam opening. I don't think this would be a good fit for your window.

The same goes for the pivot bar. The only thing we sell that might fit is our 26-040, but this would require drilling a new hole and even then, it's not compatible with our 15-120. It might have been compatible with your old cam, but no shoe we sell with that style cam is 1-1/8" x 3/4".

As for the tilt latch, the best solution I can offer this is replacing it entirely with a surface mount option. The video below will clarify how this can be done.

Landlord from Massena, NY
So I did mistype, the width of the pivot shoe is 1-1/4 so those will work but it doesn't change the fact that the pivot bar that fits that shoe will need to be modified for our windows. I also had a feeling that we would have to move to surface mount. I thank you for your assistance.
Tom
Tom from SWISCO
SWISCO
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Gotcha, thanks for correcting that size. 1-1/4" definitely opens up your options, though the thickness is still a concern. If you wanted to look over your options, you can see our full selection of pivot shoes here.

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