Window balance

Quick Learner from Alabama
May 26, 2024 3:04 pm
My balance show 28tg and has a blue hook. See pictures. My jamb liner looks different than video and does not appear to be removable.
ribbed balance blue knife lock shoe
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Emily
Emily from SWISCO
May 30, 2024 2:01 pm
SWISCO
EXPERT

Hello there! Thanks for reaching out to us. We can help with this though it must be a custom order as your balance appears to use the 15-233 shoe. Can you confirm how your balance installs at the top of the track? How many balances are you looking to replace?

As for removal, it's possible that your balances were dropped into the jamb from the top when the window was installed. You may be able to pull the jamb out after you've removed both the top and bottom sashes. Removing the header may also be necessary, though less likely.

Some windows aren't made to be repaired. The window manufacturer would rather you buy a new window than just one small repair part. In your case, that means that partial disassembly of the window frame like I mentioned may be required. If you aren't comfortable with that kind of project, you may want the assistance of a local professional, just to be safe.

Quick Learner from Alabama
May 30, 2024 2:38 pm
Here is another picture at the top of balance and at bottom where broken. How do you remove shoe?
The white clip at the top appears removable .
ribbed balance 28TG ribbed balance
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Quick Learner from Alabama
May 30, 2024 2:42 pm
Removed balance. Has metal clip at top. See pictures
top clip rivet in top hole
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Emily
Emily from SWISCO
May 31, 2024 2:25 pm
SWISCO
EXPERT

The video below shows how to remove the shoe but your window appears to be different so you may have to disassemble the frame as explained above. 

Can you also confirm the length of the metal channel, as well as the depth and width? I apologize for not asking before, we just be thorough as custom orders are nonrefundable. 

Quick Learner from Alabama
May 31, 2024 4:31 pm
The metal channel measures 29" long, 1/2 " wide, and 1/2 " deep. Has a spring inside metal channel. See additional picture below
knife lock shhoe installed knife lock shoe damaged portion rivet in top hole
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Quick Learner from Alabama
May 31, 2024 4:34 pm
First picture shows plastic sash stop which is at the top of window. Second picture show spring inside metal channel.
channel balance sash stop
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Quick Learner from Alabama
May 31, 2024 5:10 pm
Mine appears to be the 29"series 751 channel balance and the 15-233 blue locking terminal. My question is can the blue locking terminal be removed from channel balance to allow installation into the window jamb? Then reattach to channel balance once it is slid down into position?
I was looking at the video you have on getting the old locking terminal and new in by using the "cut out" method.
Emily
Emily from SWISCO
Jun 3, 2024 1:23 pm
SWISCO
EXPERT

We don't recommend the cut-out method for this repair. You must remove the jamb liner to remove the shoe. If you're not comfortable doing so, we suggest consulting a local professional for assistance. 

I'll go ahead and email you a purchase link and price quote for (2) S751-29 balances with the 28TG stamp and 15-233 shoe that you can use to place an order on our website. Please note that the S-clips are not included. If you need new ones, see if the 19-029 match up with your old clip. 

Quick Learner from Alabama
Jun 3, 2024 2:03 pm
Cutout method is only option as the window does not have a removable jamb liner.
Quick Learner from Alabama
Jun 11, 2024 3:32 pm
Hi Emily,

I purchased the Series 751 balances, and upon receiving them, realized the width / depth of my original balance is closer to 7/16", rather than 9/16". I was informed you have custom balance capabilities for this.

Below is a photo of my old versus new balance. Can you help me get this quoted? I will need (2) of them. Thank you for your help!
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Emily
Emily from SWISCO
Jun 12, 2024 8:44 am
SWISCO
EXPERT

Hello! We do have a version of the S751 with a smaller ribbed channel we can supply via custom order. However, our width and depth are more precise. I've attached the dimensions below. I'm afraid I can't promise this will work for you if they differ. Custom orders are nonrefundable as well so that's something to keep in mind. Would this still be something you're interested in?

I also see you told my colleague, Christian, that the blue shoes on the new balance match the old one and the extra ones are too big. I assume you were referring to the 15-233 but please correct me if I'm wrong! 

I looked over your initial photos of the old knife lock shoe and while it is hard to be certain since it's installed, I wonder if you could have the "smaller" version of the 15-233 that we've seen in the past. We've had mixed reviews of customers reporting the 15-233 and 15-014 can replace the "smaller" shoe so I can't say exactly which one would work for you, unfortunately. 

Please let me know if you'd still like to go the custom route and which knife lock shoe you want to go with and I can get the ball rolling on this. 

s753 channel specs
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