tilt sash vinyl window balances

Handy Person from Galveston, TX
Hi,
I need 16 of the attached window balances with shoes and pins for the panes. They measure 1/2" by 27". Half of them are stamped 27A and the other half stamped 27B. I assume that means Left/Right side.

Neither the windows nor the balance assemblies have any other identifying names, model/serial #'s or markings of any kind. I don't know the exact window weight, but they seem to be about 5 - 10 lbs. They are not hurricane rated. Six of them are double paned 29" x 29" windows. The other two are the same, but half the width at about 15".

The top of the balance has a hook/clip connected by window shade cord to the block and tackle assembly. This clip fits into a small slot in the window frame at the top with the bottom shoe of the balance fitting into a pin screwed into the bottom side of the window to allow tilting the window out.

I live on the Texas Gulf Coast and this area has a highly corrosive salty atmosphere. The previous owner never, or rarely ever, opened them. The pins screwed into the bottom side of the window panes have completely rusted out and no longer exist. I literally have to remove the entire pane from the frame to open the window. Drilling the remaining rusted fragments out will not be fun.

I will eventually also need 8 x 19" assemblies for 4 smaller 33" x 16" windows in the back of the condo.

Any chance you have a quantity order discount available?
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Handy Person from Galveston, TX
I have since been able to identify the 27A balances as being the ones from the two narrower windows, approx. 15" x 29". The 27B balances are from the six 29" square windows. They appear to closely resemble your S795-27 balances; even the shoe seems to be identical. The only difference is the attachment of the cord at the top of the block and tackle assembly. Your product image shows a small tab that screws into the window frame whereas mine has an angled clip tab that fits in a pre-existing slot.

I was also able to find these somewhat intact stickers on the frame of a couple of the windows. Hope this helps.
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Tom from SWISCO
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Thanks for reaching out to us! I agree with your assessment; your old balance is a match for our S795-27, but with a 15-198 hook at the top of the cord instead of the usual screw tab. We can supply this configuration but it will have to be a custom order since it's not stock.

Before we go any further, can you confirm exactly how many balances of each stamp you need? I assume it's 8 of the 27B and 8 of the 27B, but I want to be 100% sure.

Lastly, I wanted to address the pivot bar, which you said is too corroded to ID. The Series 795 is unfortunately compatible with about a half million different kinds of pivot bars, so we won't be able to make a confident recommendation, but there are two common pairings: the 26-021 and 26-366. I cannot guarantee that either will match your original but they're at least worth considering.

Handy Person from Galveston, TX

Hi Tom,

Thanks for your reply. I finally found a round2it for this project. I will need:

8 of the 15B balances each with the 15-198 clips4 of the 27A balances each with the 15-198 clips12 of the 27B balances each with the 15-198 clips24 of the 26-021 pivot bars

I'm not 100% certain these are the correct pivot bars as what's left of the existing pivot bars are so severely corroded they barely exist. However the rectangular shaped hole in the  window frame appears to be approximately 5/16" wide by roughly 3/8" tall??? The single hole for the set screw also appears to be approximately 1" from the edge of the window which may also correlate to the 26-021 bar. 

I assume I'm going to have to drill out whats left of the one existing set screw and remove any remaining metal of the old pivot bar, somehow. The vinyl frame appears to be welded together at each corner. It does not appear to be able to be easily disassembled.

Any chance you guys have a weather resistant version of these parts? All metal corrodes extremely fast when exposed to the outside air here... including our trucks :(

Best,Karl

Tom
Tom from SWISCO
SWISCO
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Thanks so much, Karl! I'll go ahead and email you a purchase link and price quote that will let you add all three balances to your cart. To summarize this link, it will contain:

Note that the 26-021 pivot bars will not be included with this custom link since it's just a stock part. Custom order links can only have custom products. Don't forget to add those pivot bars to your cart before you check out!

Speaking of the 26-021, I agree that this sounds like the best replacement option. It sounds like it will fit in the original space, with the same hole placement, and we know it's compatible with the 15-195 shoe. That criteria is really all you need to ensure compatibility. As for the old rusted pivot bar, you may not need to pull it out. It might be easier to just push it deeper in with the new pivot bar. There should be plenty of room.

Concerning corrosion resistant materials, I'm sorry to say that it's not an option. These are pretty much only made of diecast metal by the manufacturer. As far as I'm aware they don't offer alternative options. I'm very sorry for the inconvenience.

I'll go ahead and email you that purchase link now. You can expect that shortly.

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