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Handy Person from Illinois
Jul 22, 2019 7:12 pm
I am in need of several parts. I have Simonton windows 4374740/01. There were installed in 2005 by a previous home owner. I noticed several issues with the windows after I purchased the house, the one is the springs on the left sash were sprung. The upper cover after I removed it broke in half. So I'll need a new cover which is a double spring holder. In the picture is a single spring holder that mounts right below the double spring holder. Then the pivot piece.

Approximate

Upper Double Cover measures, 1" W x 4" H x about 7/16" deep
Lower Single Cover measures. 1" W x 1-1/2" H about 7/16" deep
Springs say 5.0# 35" and are about 3/8" thick
Pivot is 1-7/8" tall x 1-1/4" w and 1/2" thick

Can yo help me with these?
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Tom from SWISCO
Jul 29, 2019 12:39 pm
SWISCO
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Thanks for posting. Your pivot shoe looks like our 15-199. Since your shoe is 3/8" thick, I recommend our S165-5.

Are you using three springs per side? If so, it'll be a lot easier to just use a triple spring support instead of using a bunch of smaller ones. See our 15-205.

Handy Person from Illinois
Jul 29, 2019 1:58 pm
When I took it out, all of it was twisted et. The left side has the 3 springs, while the right side only has 2. So I'm wondering if all 3 springs are attached to each other? I didn't see as I pulled it out of the track since it was all mangled. I know 2 of the spring ends were attached into the shoe. Thanks for any more info.
Tom
Tom from SWISCO
Jul 29, 2019 2:01 pm
SWISCO
Expert

There should be the same number of springs on each side of the window. How heavy is the sash? If you have 3 five pound springs on each side, then the sash would be 30 pounds. Let me know!

Handy Person from Illinois
Jul 29, 2019 5:47 pm
All 7 windows are the same. The left side has the 3 springs for the lower sash, while the right side has only 2. The windows/sash is 28.8 pounds.

Attache are pictures of a window with both sides shown.
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Tom from SWISCO
Jul 30, 2019 7:53 am
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It sounds like whoever installed these had to get creative, for whatever reason. I highly recommend that you use the same number of springs on each side so that the window functions optimally. Specifically, I'd recommend two 5 pound springs (S165-5) and one 4 pound spring (S165-4) on each side. This will add up to 14 pounds of support per side, which should be fine for your sash weight.

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