Fix parents broken window
Quick Learner from Toms River, NJ
Sep 29, 2022 6:36 pm
Hi, trying to find the parts to fix my parents window. I am fairly sure the Pivot Shoe is this ( https://www.swisco.com/CertainTeed-Pivot-Shoe/pd/Tilt-Window-Replacement-Pivot-Lock-Shoes/15-192 ) but I don't see the same Sash Pivot Bar anywhere. I also can't get the coils out yet because I didn't have a Jamb Spreader Tool with me (I am over an hour away so this is taking several trips). Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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Quick Learner from Toms River, NJ
Sep 30, 2022 8:24 am
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Emily from SWISCO
Oct 4, 2022 1:44 pm
Hi there!
Your pivot bar appears to be an old Simonton brand which leads me to believe this may be a Simonton brand window. If that's the case, I recommend you use our 15-259 pivot shoe and Series 159 coil springs to replace your original setup. We even have a video that will walk you through the installation process. I will also attach another video below that will show you how to remove your hardware from the track using the cut out method.
You could use the 15-192 but this will likely require shaving down the bumps on the face in order for it to fit in the track. Please note, modified items cannot be returned for a refund.
Quick Learner from Toms River, NJ
Oct 5, 2022 10:50 am
Thanks Emily, do you have the pivot bar as well? If so what's that part #? One is bent so need new one. Thanks so much
Quick Learner from Toms River, NJ
Dec 29, 2022 12:34 pm
Hopefully the last questions I will have as I was finally able to use the jamb spreaders I purchased earlier to get the coil assembly and coils out.
1. No markings on the coils but the window weighs 20.7 lbs, and there are 2 double coils (1 on each side) for a total of 4 coils on the window, which weighted Series 159 Coil Balance Product Code: S159-? do I need as 20.7 divided by 4 is 5.175 so not a perfect match to any coil. I assume I need to replace with a double coil or is it possible to convert to a single coil?
2. Depending on the answers above, the old coil assembly is a double coil, has a white plastic circular holding the metal coil and that center of that plastic goes into a slot that holds the screw into the window. Will a new Series 159 Coil Balance Product Code: S159-? work with the assembly that we already have or will we need a new double assembly? If we need a new double assembly, is 3/4" Coil Double Support Product Code: 15-256 the one? It looks like there is only one screw slot/hole in that one though which concerns me, if not which one is it? OR can I convert to a single coil? and if so 3/4" Coil Single Support Product Code: 15-255.
Current assembly pics attached and measuerments are: The distance between the 2 screws in my current balance assembly is 1-1/2" apart, the width is 1-1/4", depth is 13/16", length is 3-1/16".
Thanks so much!
1. No markings on the coils but the window weighs 20.7 lbs, and there are 2 double coils (1 on each side) for a total of 4 coils on the window, which weighted Series 159 Coil Balance Product Code: S159-? do I need as 20.7 divided by 4 is 5.175 so not a perfect match to any coil. I assume I need to replace with a double coil or is it possible to convert to a single coil?
2. Depending on the answers above, the old coil assembly is a double coil, has a white plastic circular holding the metal coil and that center of that plastic goes into a slot that holds the screw into the window. Will a new Series 159 Coil Balance Product Code: S159-? work with the assembly that we already have or will we need a new double assembly? If we need a new double assembly, is 3/4" Coil Double Support Product Code: 15-256 the one? It looks like there is only one screw slot/hole in that one though which concerns me, if not which one is it? OR can I convert to a single coil? and if so 3/4" Coil Single Support Product Code: 15-255.
Current assembly pics attached and measuerments are: The distance between the 2 screws in my current balance assembly is 1-1/2" apart, the width is 1-1/4", depth is 13/16", length is 3-1/16".
Thanks so much!
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Emily from SWISCO
Dec 30, 2022 10:07 am
You can either stick with the original double coil setup or you can switch to a single support; the decision is ultimately yours! If you decide to go with two coils on each side of the window, you can use (1) S159-5 5.5-pound spring and (1) S159-4 4.5-pound spring on both sides of the window. This would total 10 pounds of support on each side for a 20-pound sash.
If you end up going with a single coil on each side, you can use (1) S159-10 10.5-pound spring on each side of the window which would total 21 pounds of overall support. As long as the coil weights are within a pound of your sash's actual weight, either setup should be fine. Your old support isn't compatible with the Series 159 springs so you would need a new one. See the 15-256 for a double coil support and the 15-255 for a single coil support.
Let me know if you have any questions and I'd be happy to help!
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